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  • citizenzen
    Apr 22, 10:00 AM
    ... teach our kids why rome fell ...

    You mean because they passed laws against homosexuality?

    While I find that a little simplistic, if you really want to run with that theory that's your choice.


    Homosexuality in ancient Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome)

    Homosexuality in ancient Rome features dispassionately in many literary works, poems, graffiti and in comments, for example, on the sexual predilections of single emperors: Edward Gibbon famously observed that "of the first fifteen emperors Claudius was the only one whose taste in love was entirely correct". Surviving graphic representations are, on the other hand, rarer in ancient Rome than in classical Greece. Attitudes toward homosexuality changed over time ranging from the matter-of-fact acceptance of Republican Rome and the pagan Empire to rising condemnation, exampled by the Athenian Sextus Empiricus, who asserted that άρρενομιζία was outlawed in Rome— and in Athens, too!— and Cyprian.

    The term homosexuality is anachronistic for the ancient world, since there is no single word in either Latin or ancient Greek with the same meaning as the modern concept of homosexuality, nor was there any sense that a man was defined by his gender choices in love-making; "in the ancient world so few people cared to categorize their contemporaries on the basis of the gender to which they were erotically attracted that no dichotomy to express this distinction was in common use", James Boswell has noted.

    ...

    Later Empire

    The rise of statutes legislating against homosexuality begins during the social crisis of the 3rd century, when a series of laws were promulgated regulating various aspects of homosexual relations, from the statutory rape of minors to gay marriages. By the sixth century homosexual relations were expressly prohibited for the first time, as Procopius notes.


    On a related note, a search of the string "homo" in the article The Decline of Rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_rome) comes up with zero results.

    You gotta do better than that bassfingers. :rolleyes:





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  • MagnusVonMagnum
    Apr 29, 10:34 PM
    There's a huge difference between merging in concepts of the UI, user-friendly software distribution, media access and what you describe.

    It is very unlikely that Apple's engineering and marketing would destroy what they've worked to build for so long, IMHO. How are you so certain that they'll be bringing all the bad stuff along with the good stuff? Seriously - do you really think that Apple's talent are as utterly foolish that you make them out to be?


    Is there? They're already controlling what can and cannot be sold on the iOS platform (and it is an entire platform now with full-fledged computers in the form of the iPad). They've proven themselves beyond contempt by insisting that in-app subscriptions be the same or lower on the App store than direct, despite the fact that they demand 1/3 of all the selling price. They've added an 'App' store for OSX proper and have the same 30% "grab" for everything on there. They're advertising and bragging about bringing iOS features back to OSX. I'm just doing simple math here. You can make 1+1 = 1 if you say it's a bigger one, but in my world, 2 is still the more likely answer.

    And you are the ones using the words "foolish". I think it's quite possibly a business-savvy solution to ensuring profits stay high into the future. What you or I may want in OSX is irrelevant to both Apple and Steve Jobs. Steve has essentially said that consumers don't know what's best for them and that it takes a visionary to move forward. We know Steve's 'vision' is smaller/thinner/more mobile at almost any cost. So I'm not saying it will happen like that, but that it's looking more likely every day. Only time will tell for sure. But I know if it does happen, I'll no longer have an interest in OSX. I don't want Apple deciding for me what I can or cannot buy or watching developers get 1/3 their gross taken from them (same % as a typical injury lawyer BTW. You don't get paid until they get paid FIRST and your bills 2nd and you last; in this case it would be taxes instead of bills). You can think it's good/fair/right. I don't agree and I don't want Apple telling me I have to use Safari because they don't want Firefox or Chrome competing with them.

    No, it'll happen whether we like it or not. Because the industry is going to the iPad like dumbed down devices for every day use, and in 10-15 years those devices will be fast enough for all of us to do almost everything on them.

    I don't know about that. There will always be a market for faster/more powerful (i.e. most people may drive a Ford Focus or Chevy Impala or Toyota Corrola and hybrids may capture larger and larger market penetration in the future, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for the WRX, Mustang, Corvette, etc. even if it shrinks over time) and so even if Apple AND Microsoft bail out of traditional computing, that just means someone else will likely take over. They can't make Linux go away, for example. And if people didn't BUY it, the lines would stop. Newton didn't exactly go over so well the first time around....





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  • fivepoint
    May 5, 03:21 PM
    So, to me a question about firearms in the home seems perfectly within the scope of evaluating risks, and more probably, helping to provide information for parents.

    Doctors shouldn't ask these questions to be busybodies, but to make good decisions and provide care.

    That's kinda the whole point here, isn't it? You may think it's ok, others may not. We're all different, all of our situations are different, different families have more/less, or just different risk than other families. There's no right, there's no wrong, the point is we don't need the damn government getting involved and telling doctors what they can and can't ask. Or for that matter telling doctors who they must and who they musn't provide care for. It's a private transaction between the customer and the physician, so leave it at that. Don't tread on me.





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  • Stang68
    Jan 14, 11:43 AM
    I will still be extremely happy if the only thing he announces is 802.1x capability for the iPhone/touch. Maybe it will come in the form of the 1.1.3 update! But, on to other things:

    Obviously a MacBook Air (stupid name)

    Movie Rentals

    I dont think a 3G iPhone announcement this early because then not many people would buy the phone until the 3G version actually comes out.

    iPhone/touch SDK demo.

    Finishes with a song by The Killers...:D



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  • Hovey
    Jul 21, 10:49 AM
    I hate to add to this whole tiresome "debate" but it does amuse me how a video of an iPhone 4 losing signal is proof *positive* of a design flaw whereas a similar video of a different smartphone is no proof at all!

    I have an iPhone 4, its the best phone I have ever had and by a mile! I'm happy with it and frankly I'm pretty much sick and tired of folks telling me I'm mad or stupid for saying so!

    Keith

    Yes there does seem to be a double standard when it comes to online video credibility.





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  • Sined
    Apr 10, 06:17 PM
    Are keri and LTD married or do they share a room in an asylum? I'm confused.



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  • SockRolid
    Apr 16, 05:28 AM
    wow the iOS/Apple closed ecosystem must really be the WORSE THANG EVAR if google is trying to trying to do it.

    Dumpster fires are open. Weedpatches are open. Cesspools are open.

    Pick one and jump in.





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  • Compile 'em all
    Jul 22, 08:21 AM
    I'm sorry, but these video stunts are just bogus and have no credibility. Clearly on 3 of them the person holding the phone is applying a lot of vice-like pressure and squeezing the phones as hard as possible. You can see the arm shaking from applying so much force and the thumb turns red. Do they think people are that stupid? That is far removed from realistic usage of the phones, whereas the problem with the iPhone 4 is just touching it in a certain spot.

    Apple is making it worse because instead of just being honest and forthcoming, they are now lying and trying to distract from the real issue. People will be understanding and wouldn't care if Apple would just be contrite, educate people about facts and make an attempt to rectify the situation. They did that by giving away the bumpers and sharing the data about dropped calls which helps their case that it is still a great phone, but everything else they have done damages their brand. Their attempt to mislead people from the facts is not helping.

    What real issues?

    Apple are selling iPhones as fast as they can make them.

    Aside from a tiny minority on the internet, the avg. joe is out there enjoying and using their new iPhone. If it was a big issue as the media portrayed it, Apple wouldn't be selling a single unit.

    You people are funny.



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  • bedifferent
    Apr 29, 07:06 PM
    I used Photoshop.

    lol :p





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  • Shannighan
    Jan 15, 02:32 PM
    WHERE THE HELL IS THE GOD DAMN MACBOOK PRO UDATE???? THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I HAVE TO WAT LONGER

    that made me mad


    but with HD movie rentals and a price drop i might buy a Apple tv now though



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  • Yvan256
    Aug 1, 01:11 PM
    "the songs can only be played on Apple's iPod"

    I'm really tired of hearing this. First of all, people are not forced to buy from the iTMS, CDs still exist.

    Second, the songs can be played on a Mac computer with iTunes, a Windows computer with iTunes, iPods. They can also be burned to an audio CD which can be played on millions of devices.

    How is that "iPod-only"?! :confused:





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  • Calidude
    Apr 16, 04:38 PM
    But if you are poor and out of work, or you have a low skilled job - such as working at McDonalds - you aren't likely to be a good role model.
    Spoken like a true Republican.



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  • klaus
    Aug 12, 04:03 PM
    Okay,

    The left display in the pic below is one I bought 2 years ago, it was replaced 2 times (this is the 3rd display). The display on the right is brandnew, I bought it on wednesday from the online apple store.

    The colors in the picture are exagerated because of the photo itself. The background of the screens is black and the backlight leakage is white irl.

    The effect is also not as obvious as in the picture but however, it is there, very visible.

    If you look at the highres - http://users.skynet.be/bk318948/macosx.nl/schermen.jpg - then you can clearly see there is ghosting on the right screen.

    I've requested for a replacement for the new one. The old one (left) was bought at a dealer. It's still in warranty (applecare) but i'm in some kind of dispute with that dealer, so i'm hoping to take care of it directly through Apple.

    On a sidenote, I payed almost 2400 euro (vat incl.) for the left one 2 years agon, the right one, which I bought this week, cost me 1150 euro. Should be enough to be eligible for 2 perfect displays no?





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  • spillproof
    Oct 6, 12:29 PM
    Getting back to the actual advertisement. What self-respecting advertising professional would use someone else's tagline like that.

    I had a few friends watching the football game (where we saw the ad) and half of them thought it was an iphone commercial because they were only half paying attention and heard "there's a map for that".

    Pretty shoddy work in my opinion.

    I disagree. It is a satirical and pokes fun of AT&T and Apple while giving facts. It gets you to think, which is the goal of an advertisement.

    I like this commercial and hope it makes AT&T a little more scared that they are failing. (Or I could be bias for my love of satires and dislike for AT&T :cool:)

    I think first Verizon has to back a truck full of money up to Apple's campus, then Apple has to build a CDMA iPhone :D

    Just one?



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  • Glideslope
    Apr 25, 01:23 PM
    Why are you so adamant that they will use 4S instead of 5?

    -The 3GS had an identical appearance to the 3G, but with upgraded internals, hence the S.
    -A 3.7" iPhone would not have an identical appearance to the iPhone 4 by virtue of the screen size alone, so there would be no reason to simply add an S.
    -3G is a feature description, adding an S might make some sense there as it could also be considered a "feature description". 4 is a revision number, why would they add an S to that? 4.5 or 5 would make more sense.
    -The iPhone 4 and iOS 4 were launched in the same time frame, it makes sense for the numbers on each to match up. What's next? iPhone 5 and iOS 5 of course. I don't know why they'd stray from matching revision numbers so quickly after finally achieving them.
    -If they plan on calling the phone after this 6, why would they skip 5, which sounds like a bigger upgrade than 4S?

    As far as I'm concerned, 4S is the least likely name possible for the next iPhone. iPhone 5, 4G (LTE), 4.5 (very unlikely), and plain "iPhone" all have a much greater chance than 4S (with 5 being the most likely). I just spent way to much time on this minor issue though.

    The phone will be the 4s. The start of production of the CDMA phone in Aug 2010 threw everything off kilter.

    The 4s will be a 4 with the 3.7 screen, and a A5 chip. That is it. Period.

    The 5 will be out in 2012 with Qualcomms 2nd gen Dual Band Chip which will be ready early 2012. It will will be a complete redesign with LTE. My money is on some type of new chassis with a new hybrid aluminum. The back glass will be gone for sure.

    Apple will then produce 1 World iPhone. 5,6,7,8,9.... all Global Phones. :apple:





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  • Rodimus Prime
    Apr 23, 01:19 AM
    So? How exactly will this affect you personally? Sounds like an imaginary demon. What exactly is your fear? Will some harm come to you?


    Why does it need to be encrypted? For what purpose?


    Ok. But for what purpose? To what end?


    What exactly do you think will be done with that information? Will you be tracked and abducted? What will be done with information that showed you were like 10km near your local Target outlet? Is this critical, private information about you?


    From what I can piece together (sometimes your grammar is shockingly bad), you're saying Apple is less up-front about collecting (*allegedly*) information that is otherwise harmless.


    And here I am thinking this was something actually worth worrying about.

    Targeted, personalized advertising. LOL. BIG FRIGGIN CONCERN!!

    I see that you truly are worshiping Apple there.
    You bashed Google Buzz on their stuff there but turn around and find this completely ok.

    There is another thread I sited a long list of examples of issues with it.
    But clearly you already have sold your soul to Apple.



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  • oldMac
    Aug 9, 05:38 PM
    Modern diesel hatchbacks like the Golf TDI (Euro engines, not the US-spec) can exceed 50-60mpg (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/fuel-consumption). The Volt is harder to measure because it's a plugin, so some power comes from the grid. GM's own webiste is rather mealymouthed about fuel economy. At one point they claimed over 200mpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt), but that included a full batery charge from the grid. Using only its onboard generator it gets about 50mpg (http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1044209_now-we-know-2011-chevrolet-volt-will-get-50-mpg-in-gas-mode). So all the extra tech essentially fails to improve on a diesel.

    Couple points...

    1) The problem with MPG on something like the volt is that it doesn't make any sense to measure it this way
    - MPG is simply the wrong standard to use when you're talking about what is primarily an electric car
    - Regarding it "only getting 50mpg", I don't believe that's been settled, but if true, then that's still 8MPG than the best highway mileage VW is able to currently offer in the US

    2) Diesels don't get 50-60mpg in the US for two reasons

    a) The MPG numbers for a Euro engine are measured in imperial gallons, which are 20% bigger than US gallons and thus inflate the MPG by 20%. Furthermore, these MPG standards are measured using completely different testing methods between the US and Europe, so you can't directly compare them.

    b) None of those super-fuel-efficient Euro engines have been able to pass US emissions laws yet.

    Would I drop 41K on one (or 33K after rebates)?

    Probably not, but I'm sure they'll sell every one that they can make and I'm sure that price will come down over time.





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  • Preclaro_tipo
    Mar 28, 02:23 PM
    What a lame rule...clearly they don't care about the best or most innovative products for people, they care about themselves and this time they aren't even TRYING to make it look like it is people/software/design first...it is purely Apple first.

    I know Apple (and Microsoft, and google and Oracle, etc) gets accused of being evil, slimy, greedy, monopolistic, or some combination or derivation of these from time to time, or even regularly, but for me this is the one of the most flagrant 'slimy' (et al) practices I've seen of Apple.





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  • blahblah100
    Mar 28, 02:40 PM
    Of course, all the HATERS will cry foul.

    Kanye? I didn't know Kanye West posted on this forum.

    P.S. Your music sucks. Also, what you did to Taylor Swift was out of line.





    tech4all
    Nov 24, 01:44 AM
    I was hoping for a little more of a discount on some of those items. I'd figure with the Nano at least $20 off from $149. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Only about 15 minutes to go for 12:00am PST! :)





    vniow
    Jan 5, 04:38 PM
    Feel it people. A million geeks, all achieving orgasm at the same time. It's such a thing of beauty. :)

    Too bad the keynote wasn't set for December 22nd (http://www.globalorgasm.org/) instead.





    monaarts
    Mar 17, 12:04 PM
    And I'm also a Microsoft Fanboy!!! Haaaaaaa Long live the Microsoft Zune the ultimate iPod Killer!!!


    I thought you are "going back to the real world, while the debate in this thread continues."???

    On a side note, what do you do for a living? Seriously, not where you work but what do you do?


    - Joe





    Surely
    Apr 6, 09:58 AM
    Post Your Last Purchase XVI (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1085963&page=90) at 2248 posts....time for a new thread. Yay.:D

    And to start this off: I bought some NY strip steaks for my new grill......they've been marinating overnight.

    http://www.csumeats.com/images/NY%20Strip%20Steaks.jpg
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    swagi
    Apr 29, 03:12 PM
    And people kept telling me that OSX and iOS weren't going to merge in any meaningful manner for years ahead, if ever. Yeah right. I'd bet the one after this has them nearly fully merged and I mean towards iOS for the most part. OSX will be dumbed down to the lowest common brain cell and you won't be able to get free/open software anymore. It'll have to come through the App Store or not at all. Wait and see. That is the point I'll be moving on.

    Thumbs up to you, man. I'll be passing the Lion for some flavour of Linux as well.